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My first Harry Turtledove book. I am a history buff and finally decided to read an alternative history novel, I have heard that Harry Turtledove is the best at it, some say it pretty much invented it. I choose this particular title because it is a time in history I have studied a little and thought it would be fun to see how Mr.
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(The Hot War #1)
In his acclaimed novels of alternate history, Harry Turtledove has scrutinized the twisted soul of the twentieth century, from the forces that set World War I in motion to the rise of fascism in the decades that followed. Now, this masterful storyteller turns his eyes to the aftermath of World War II and asks: In an era of nuclear posturing, what if the Cold War suddenly t...more
Published July 14th 2015 by Del Rey
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Robbie ParsonsHarry Turtledove is a master story teller. This book follows several people and how an atomic Korean-War-turned-World-War-III affects them. There are…moreHarry Turtledove is a master story teller. This book follows several people and how an atomic Korean-War-turned-World-War-III affects them. There are people who are civilians, soldiers, and the POTUS. He describes the war graphically, and does a whale of a job doing it. It is almost as if you are reading the account of a war from someone who was there. There are other themes that are rather adult, but not detailed. As an example, an English girl whose pub is destroyed is swept off her feet and their sexual encounters are basically described in the most discreet of ways. There is obviously a lot of strong language, with F bombs (pardon the pun) dropped everywhere. Considering all this, it is your decision if you would want your 13 year old son reading it.(less)
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Jul 29, 2015Bradley rated it liked it
There's a lot of this novel that's good, if not particularly my taste, but then again, there's a lot that I had to slog over.
First, the good:
This history of 1951 diverges immediately, and we get immersed in a multitude of characters from around the world, from China, Hungary, Russia, Germany, as well as a host of locations in America, including Seattle, California, and parts of the East Coast. I felt like I was a part of the world as a whole, steeped in not particularly deep descriptions of the...more
First, the good:
This history of 1951 diverges immediately, and we get immersed in a multitude of characters from around the world, from China, Hungary, Russia, Germany, as well as a host of locations in America, including Seattle, California, and parts of the East Coast. I felt like I was a part of the world as a whole, steeped in not particularly deep descriptions of the...more
May 25, 2015Randal White rated it it was ok
More Typical Turtledove! In his latest book, Turtledove imagines what may have happened if Truman decided to use atomic weapons in the Korean War. Unsurprisingly, this decision led to Russia backing China, and a nightmare of atom bombs crossing the Northern Hemisphere. Turtledove uses a variety of characters to develop his plot, letting the reader see the war through several different perspectives. I used to love Turtledove novels. Especially his World War series, and Guns Of The South. Latel...more
Apr 24, 2015Mark Gardner rated it liked it
I’ve been a Turtledove fan for more than thirty years. I can’t believe it has taken me that long to discover the formula that Turtledove uses in each war story. I suppose I’ve not seen it because of excellent non-war series like Supervolcano and the Krispos series. I suspect I was subconsciously aware of the Turtledove formulaic doctrine (TFD) during the last four books of the southern victory series, but as I read certain characters, situations and even dialect, in Bombs Away, it hit me.
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Dec 18, 2017Joe Santoro rated it liked it
It's been some time since I read any Harry Turtledove, and this one jumped out at me as what could be a great one.. Turtledove imagines WWIII.
Unfortunately, he fails to deliver on the alternative history part. There's very little there. Sure, we get Stalin and Truman tossing Atomic bombs around like candy, but there's not any depth to it... anyone could have come up with both the scenario that kicked it off, and what happens next. We get nothing of the communist motivations, and very little of t...more
Unfortunately, he fails to deliver on the alternative history part. There's very little there. Sure, we get Stalin and Truman tossing Atomic bombs around like candy, but there's not any depth to it... anyone could have come up with both the scenario that kicked it off, and what happens next. We get nothing of the communist motivations, and very little of t...more
Sep 21, 2016Steven rated it it was ok · review of another edition
I love alternate history. This one seemed to have an interesting premise. Following WW II, the U.S. (Truman and generals) want to keep the Chinese out of Korea and calculate the best way to do that with the least losses is to drop an A-bomb or two in China. They badly miscalculate the Soviet reaction to this, and before long, it's World War III, with atomic weapons.
First, the good news. This book seems well-researched and credible.
Now the bad news. The book has way too many major characters--p...more
First, the good news. This book seems well-researched and credible.
Now the bad news. The book has way too many major characters--p...more
Mar 04, 2016Marijan rated it really liked it · review of another edition
This book was a pleasant surprise. Although still clearly recognisable as turtledove, it's much less stereotypical than the books before it. there was much less repetition, less unnecessary explanations, less instances of different characters using the same expressions, geopolitics were excellent, and, yes, it was grittier than we're used to (with possible exception of Joe Steele). And a history lesson to boot.
Jan 08, 2018James Tullos rated it really liked it
See my full thoughts here: https://youtu.be/bVKMlbg9q9A
I usually read to escape from reality. So imagine how I felt reading this book, which is about an unstable American president dropping nuclear bombs due to a war with North Korea and the Russia (okay, technically it's the U.S.S.R.) invading most of Europe. Less escapism than I had hoped for.
The premise of this book is very simple: During the Korean War, Harry Truman decides to drop nuclear bombs on China. This is something that almost happen...more
I usually read to escape from reality. So imagine how I felt reading this book, which is about an unstable American president dropping nuclear bombs due to a war with North Korea and the Russia (okay, technically it's the U.S.S.R.) invading most of Europe. Less escapism than I had hoped for.
The premise of this book is very simple: During the Korean War, Harry Truman decides to drop nuclear bombs on China. This is something that almost happen...more
What if Truman and MacArthur had used nukes against China during the Korean War? The author seems to make a living writing alternate histories such as this. Beyond that premise, it follows a large cast of characters as the war escalates and nuclear bombs are dropped here and there. This wasn’t a great book; the writing is not that good. I kept reading because I wanted to find out what kind of mess happened next, but I don’t think I’ll follow up with the next books in the series. I’ve had enough...more
Apr 24, 2015Tomislav rated it really liked it
Bombs Away is the first book in a new alternate history series “The Hot War”, in which the Korean War goes nuclear. The point of departure (POD) of this alternate history is in 1950, after China intervenes to prevent the loss of Korea to US/UN forces. In this history, President Truman authorizes the use of atomic bombs against the Chinese troops staging in China. He does not directly order them to be used, but gives General MacArthur permission to send out such strikes if, in his view, the situa...more
Sep 07, 2015David rated it it was ok
What might have happened had Harry Truman decided to use a couple of atomic bombs to stop the Chinese hordes from rushing south into North Korea in 1951?
I know that option was considered, but ultimately rejected in favour of what actually happened.
Harry Turtledove, the master of alternate history (at least where plotting goes, at least in my opinion) looks at the alternative in this interesting first book of a series (duology, maybe?).
A Turtledove tradition is to tell his story from a number of...more
Jul 24, 2015Jordan rated it it was amazingI know that option was considered, but ultimately rejected in favour of what actually happened.
Harry Turtledove, the master of alternate history (at least where plotting goes, at least in my opinion) looks at the alternative in this interesting first book of a series (duology, maybe?).
A Turtledove tradition is to tell his story from a number of...more
Shelves: alternate-history, historical-fiction, firstreads-and-other-giveaways, highest-recommendations, thrillers
Believe it or not, this is actually the first ever Turtledove I've had the pleasure of reading. I've managed to build a small collection, grabbing assorted works at garage and library sales over the years, but they always seem to be the middle bits of series. Not this time! This time I'm in on the ground floor for his new series exploring what might have happened had the Cold War gone hot in the early days. In the later days, that's no fun since it would mostly just result in the planet becoming...more
Sep 08, 2018Phil rated it really liked it
I've been thinking about reading the Hot War series for a while because its premise interested me. It takes, as its point of departure, the decision to avoid using atomic weapons during the crisis initiated by the Chinese entry into the Korean War in 1950. In Turtledove's version, President Truman accepts General MacArthur's recommendation to use the A-bomb on various Chinese transportation hubs to slow the Chinese advance. The result is mayhem, of course, but very much in the Turtledove style....more
Oct 04, 2018Keith Beasley-Topliffe rated it really liked it · review of another edition
This Turtledove alternate history follows his well followed pattern: a tweak to history at a crucial turning point and leads to vast consequences across the whole world which we see through the eyes of clusters of people, great and small, in many different places. Bonus: with so many 'main' characters, Turtledove could unexpectedly kill off anyone and still have plenty left to follow. No hero is guaranteed to come through triumphant.
In this book (and 2 sequels) the tweak is that President Truma...more
In this book (and 2 sequels) the tweak is that President Truma...more
Even before World War II ended, American strategists had concerns about potential Soviet incursions into other countries. In particular, the State Department thought it critical to keep the Soviets out of Korea - because not only would Korea provide ice-free ports to the USSR, but it would allow them a strategic advantage in relation both to China and Japan.
As Max Hastings reported in his book, The Korean War, less than twenty-four hours after the atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, the U.S. m...more
As Max Hastings reported in his book, The Korean War, less than twenty-four hours after the atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, the U.S. m...more
Jan 26, 2017Patrick rated it really liked it · review of another edition
He is writing the same kind of book that he wrote decades ago. The stories are thought provoking but the story is the overview of a major event. The characters are background details. This is the opposite of how most fiction is written. In a real sense he is writing a history and they are good. The logic behind his view of an event is always clear and the history is spot on.
His analyses of the impacts on the future resulting from his change to history are really sensible. He gives you a lot of g...more
His analyses of the impacts on the future resulting from his change to history are really sensible. He gives you a lot of g...more
Jul 14, 2015Elliott rated it did not like it
I think Turtledove is a Pall Mall man, and a vodka man though I can't prove either supposition. I could not finish The War That Came Early series because every character was joined by their collective disgust at wartime smokes, victuals, and booze and I do not exaggerate when I say that this occurred in every vignette of that series.
Things are....improved...somewhat in this book, the start of a new series, that while it's not every vignette, it is at least every other. It does lead to a bit of...more
Apr 06, 2015V rated it liked it · review of another editionThings are....improved...somewhat in this book, the start of a new series, that while it's not every vignette, it is at least every other. It does lead to a bit of...more
Shelves: contemporary-literature, war, netgalley, historical-fiction
[I received an ARC from Netgally in exchange for an honest review.]
This is one that I had high hopes for going in—the postwar era, alternative history, and humans coping with nuclear fallout are some of my favourite topics in fiction. I ended up finding the story drawn out and frustrating, if only for the sheer number of characters that Turtledove juggles and plodding pace.
I admire his ability to give most of those characters different voices and motivations, to keep the narrative largely unbi...more
Mar 25, 2015Ron rated it really liked itThis is one that I had high hopes for going in—the postwar era, alternative history, and humans coping with nuclear fallout are some of my favourite topics in fiction. I ended up finding the story drawn out and frustrating, if only for the sheer number of characters that Turtledove juggles and plodding pace.
I admire his ability to give most of those characters different voices and motivations, to keep the narrative largely unbi...more
Shelves: alternate-history, korean-war, military-fiction, netgalley, world-war-3
In Bombs Away: The Hot War, Turtledove tweaked history twice. First, the Chinese ambush of the First Marine Division around the Chosen Reservoir was much more successful in destroying American forces retreating to Wosan. The second tweak develops out of the first since in this timeline, President Truman gives General MacArthur permission to use atomic weapons on staging locations over the border in China. Stalin then retaliated by bombing locations in Europe. A tit-for-tat response ensues throug...more
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Jun 30, 2015David rated it it was amazing
Typical Turtledove, if you enjoy his alt history then you should enjoy this one. Looking forward to the next book in the series.
Jun 20, 2015AH marked it as to-read
*I won this book in a Goodreads giveaway. I will read and review the book when I receive it.*
Aug 06, 2015Kathy Davie rated it it was amazing
First in The Hot War alternate history science fiction series and revolving around the Korean War.
This ARC was sent to me by NetGalley and Del Rey for an honest review.
My Take
What IF the war was going so badly for the UN troops in Korea that Truman decided to drop multiple atomic bombs on cities in China that were providing men and supplies to the North Koreans?
What IF Stalin does decide to come to the aid of his 'allies'?
And the Americans are caught with their pants down and fast asleep?
Oooee,...more
This ARC was sent to me by NetGalley and Del Rey for an honest review.
My Take
What IF the war was going so badly for the UN troops in Korea that Truman decided to drop multiple atomic bombs on cities in China that were providing men and supplies to the North Koreans?
What IF Stalin does decide to come to the aid of his 'allies'?
And the Americans are caught with their pants down and fast asleep?
Oooee,...more
This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here.
Goodreads defines the two-star rating as 'it was okay,' and that's what Bombs Away: The Hot War was. Just okay. This novel is an alternate history, examining what might have happened if the United States had responded to China's entry into the Korean War by using atomic bombs to blunt the massive invasion by hitting the Chinese supply lines (at the same time, killing many thousands of Chinese citizens). While China didn't possess such weapons then, the author envisions the USSR taking up the def...more
Jul 11, 2017Karen A. Wyle rated it liked it
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Oct 22, 2017B.J. Richardson rated it really liked it
The concept is brilliant and the plot plays it out well. Every great alt history book is the fictional answer to an historical 'what if' question. What if King Leonidas chose not to defend the Hot Gates against Persia? What if Stonewall Jackson wasn't killed by a friendly sentry early in the Civil War? What if Hitler chose to continue going at Britain rather than trying to invade the USSR?
This 'what if' question comes early in the Korean War. What if the Chinese advance was more effective than...more
This 'what if' question comes early in the Korean War. What if the Chinese advance was more effective than...more
If you're a fan of Turtledove and alternate history, you may like this one. With this book, Turtledove starts a new series, which is an AH version of the Korean War. In this version, the war gets hotter,a lot hotter, as President Truman agrees to permit General MacArthur's use of atomic bombs on China following the Chinese intervention in Korea. It proves to be a major miscalculation, as the Soviet Union stands by 'Red China' and atom bombs the US allies in Europe as well as also invading West G...more
I'd like to point out that this book has a few problems from a technical standpoint. Turtledove repeats himself a lot-more than once he explains 'I serve the Soviet Union' is the only right response in many situations in exactly the same way, for example. It's an idiosyncrasy that can be a little distracting if you're binge-reading it the way I did. That being said, I also understand the reason why it's done: in a sea of changing characters and environments, sometimes it's for the best to be rem...more
Sep 01, 2017T.l. Harris rated it liked it · review of another edition
A creative and detailed portrait of an alternate Korean War, where Truman decides to use atomic weapons on China and inadvertently starts a brutal 'hot war' with the Soviet Union.
Other reviewers have discussed the plusses and minuses of Turtledove's book. I enjoyed elements of the book-and actually liked quite a few of his characters- but was really irked by his depiction of Koreans and Chinese citizens. This war begins there, but there are no characters of note, save for a few particularly offe...more
Other reviewers have discussed the plusses and minuses of Turtledove's book. I enjoyed elements of the book-and actually liked quite a few of his characters- but was really irked by his depiction of Koreans and Chinese citizens. This war begins there, but there are no characters of note, save for a few particularly offe...more
Plausible all the way but doe get pretty slow near the end of the book as it builds up to a predictable finale leading into the next book. Enjoyed the fact that bombs go off fairly early in the book and you didn't have to read most of the book before a bomb goes off. I would have liked to see more of a vivid scene set particular when the first bomb goes off and later it is hard to keep track of where a bomb has gone off. It felt a bit distant at times, like the characters simply accepted what wa...more
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Dr Harry Norman Turtledove is an American novelist, who has produced a sizeable number of works in several genres including alternate history, historical fiction, fantasy and science fiction.
Harry Turtledove attended UCLA, where he received a Ph.D. in Byzantine history in 1977.
Turtledove has been dubbed 'The Master of Alternate History'. Within this genre he is known both for creating original sce...more
Harry Turtledove attended UCLA, where he received a Ph.D. in Byzantine history in 1977.
Turtledove has been dubbed 'The Master of Alternate History'. Within this genre he is known both for creating original sce...more
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